A Galaxy Not So Far Away

Here’s the thing: I am a huge Star Wars fan. Like, even just saying “huge fan” doesn’t really scratch the surface of how much I love that saga. I’ve watched the movies and the cartoons (and I sat through the Holiday Special), I’ve read the books, and I wear the clothing. My home is littered with merchandise. I have a playlist that encompasses every soundtrack in story order. I named one of my cats Kit, after Jedi Master Kit Fisto. I convinced my wife that we should get married on May the 4th, so that our anniversary would be “Star Wars Day”. I have a Star Wars themed Instagram feed (galactic_rep). Yet, even all of that doesn’t really do my love of Star Wars proper justice.

So yeah, it’s safe to say that I’m a wee bit excited for Star Wars: Galaxy’s Edge.

If you’re a Disney parks or a Star Wars fan (or, like me, you’re both) you’ve probably been keeping up on the news as it’s released. You’ve likely seen concept art and actual photos, maybe you’ve watched some videos. So it’s not my intention in this post to rehash any of the information that’s already come out. I’m not going to go on about how excited I am to fly the Millennium Falcon in Smuggler’s Run, or to experience the Rise of the Resistance in what’s being called the most ambitious Disney attraction ever, because let’s be honest: we all are.

Instead, I’m going to use this space to chat about some of the weird random things about Galaxy’s Edge that I’m geeking out about. Those things that a casual fan may not find interesting, but as a hardcore “ZOMGSTARWARS” type person I simply can’t wait to experience. So, without further ado:

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away…

(Sorry. I’ve always wanted to do that)

I think it’s safe to say that the cantina scene in A New Hope wouldn’t have sucked us into that wonderful world if it hadn’t been populated with all those weird aliens. Jabba’s palace in Return of the Jedi wouldn’t have been as interesting if it were just a bunch of humans hanging around. It’s these aliens that bring life to this far away galaxy, and as such I’ve always had an odd fascination with them.

One of my favorites, for some inexplicable reason, is Momaw Nadon. You know, that hammerhead creature (an Ithorian, from the planet of Ithor) that popped up for a split second in the aforementioned cantina scene. I’m sure you all know who I’m talking about, right?


My love of obscure Star Wars characters, like Momaw Nadon here, has become a sort of “thing” over the years. The more obscure, the better. 

Yeah, I don’t fully understand it either, but it’s become part running joke and part just a real interest in the creatures that have filled the periphery of the saga. In Galaxy’s Edge, one of the things that I am giddily excited about, is that you’ll get to actually talk to an Ithorian! His name is Dok Ondar, and he runs a shop in Black Spire Outpost. From what I’ve gathered, there’ll be an animatronic figure of Dok in the shop and when purchasing an item you (or the cast member cashier, it’s a little unclear at the moment) will have to converse with him to determine how much he’s willing to accept for the item. This is something that many people might find weird, or maybe just mildly entertaining, but I am full-on thrilled for the chance to see Dok Ondar up close and maybe even interact with him. I mean, Ithorians have two mouths and they talk in stereo! How cool is that?

It’s not just Dok Ondar that I’m looking forward to seeing, it’s really all of the aliens that will hopefully be a part of the land. Even at Star Wars Weekends a few years back (for our honeymoon), I was drawn to meet & greets with lesser known characters: Asajj Ventress, Kit Fisto, etc. So the fact that I’ll be able to interact with the populace of Black Spire Outpost, and not necessarily just the famous characters that everyone knows and loves, definitely has my interest piqued.


I loved meeting Asajj Ventress at Star Wars Weekends. Not only is she a fave of mine, but the performer playing her here was spot on with the character. If this sort of interaction is what we can expect in Galaxy’s Edge, consider me beyond excited to meet everyone there.

As I mentioned in the opening paragraph, I have a lot of Star Wars merchandise. Action figures, bed sheets, giant Tsum Tsums, and even a print hanging over the kitchen table. It’s possible, I suppose, that the last thing I need is yet more Star Wars stuff (a sentiment that I’m guessing that my wife would agree with). However, I’m pretty excited about what I’ll be able to buy in Galaxy’s Edge. From everything that I’ve seen so far, it’s not going to be the usual assortment of shirts and toys, but rather items that fit within the story of this “outer rim” spaceport. Toys that look handcrafted, clothing that would fit within the Star Wars universe, and the like. Above and beyond all of that, though, there are two particular things that I want to own (and should have likely started saving two years ago to afford):

The first is a lightsaber. At a shop called Savi & Son Salvage, guests will be able to pick parts with which to assemble their unique saber in what’s being touted as a true immersive experience rather than just picking parts from bins. They’ll even be able to choose the kyber crystal that powers it and affects the color of the blade. Employees of the shop known as Gatherers, who are in tune with the Force, will be on hand to assist with the construction of the saber and help you choose which one is right for you based on the different Jedi and Sith disciplines. A lightsaber will run about $110 for the hilt, and $50 for the blade, but can you really put a price on such an ancient and elegant weapon? As someone who has spent countless hours waving sticks around and making lightsaber noises, I don’t think so. (For the record, I’ve been informed by my editor/wife that I’m wrong and that that we actually can put a price on it, which is considerably lower than $160). Truth be told, I don’t even much need the lightsaber, but I kind of want to go through the experience itself. I wonder if you can do that but then not buy anything?

Even more exciting to me than a lightsaber, though, is the one thing that I really want to get at Black Spire Outpost: a droid. At the Droid Depot shop, guests will be able to build their own remote control droid from a variety of parts. When constructing a droid you’ll even choose a “personality” chip — First Order, Resistance, Smuggler, etc — and then that droid will react to the rest of Galaxy’s Edge based on that personality. For example, if you have a Resistance droid and you wander into a section of Black Spire that’s controlled by the First Order, you may hear your little friend making some nervous noises. As much as I want to build my own droid, though… there are pre-built ones for sale too and one is a DJ Rex that’s also a bluetooth speaker. I think what I’m saying here is that I need a lot of money so that I can just fill my home with droids. Honestly, as cool as the idea as a personally constructed lightsaber is, I’m way more excited about building my own droid and giving it a smuggler personality so it can come around Galaxy’s Edge with me and make neat droid noises that are probably sarcastic remarks (it will be made by me, after all). Really, the only issue that I see with all of this is the risk of spending too much time trying to build my perfect droid companion. In video games that offer character creation options, I can spend literally hours designing an avatar (sometimes for longer than I actually play the game itself), so I can see myself losing a fair bit of time here.

Fun fact: my wife just told me that I’m not allowed to have charging privileges on my MagicBand when we go to Galaxy’s Edge. That’s probably wise.


We have a running joke that I’ve put George Lucas’s kids through college with all of the Star Wars merch that I’ve bought. Well, I joke about it. My wife mostly just shakes her head and sobs softly…

Speaking of DJ Rex, I’m thrilled that I’ll get to see the former Star Tours pilot again in his new role. It actually sounds like there are going to be just a ton of references and nods to the entire Star Wars saga peppered throughout Galaxy’s Edge, so I expect to be spending a rather insane amount of my time seeking them out and then giggling happily when I find one. As someone who spends an inordinate amount of time in the Parks looking for hidden film references already (I detailed some of them here), the fact that I’ll be able to look around and find Star Wars “Easter eggs” is very thrilling. Plus, I’ll get to point every single one out to my wife. Or to random strangers after she ditches me. Or to my custom droid companion. He appreciates me…

Let’s talk a bit about the Play Disney Parks app. So far I haven’t really used it a lot, finding it entertaining enough but not generally worth the battery usage. With the stuff they’re planning for Galaxy’s Edge, though, I expect that’ll change. Allow me to direct your attention to this teaser:

Yes, I want to do all of the things that they say I’ll be able to do in this video. I mean, I usually don’t keep my head buried in my phone when I’m at the parks, but I’m absolutely going to be using the “datapad” as a part of my Star Wars adventure. I already try to translate all of the Aurebesh (the written language used in Star Wars, but I’m sure you knew that already) that I see around, and this app will make that even easier. Also, some of the stuff I’ve translated around the Launch Bay and such is pretty entertaining, so I’m looking forward to seeing what sort of messages the Imagineers have incorporated into Black Spire Outpost.


This wall, found in the cantina area of the Star Wars Launch Bay in Hollywood Studios, says “Binary Sunset Drink Specials, Twice the Suns Half the Price”

Mostly, I figure that I’ll need to bring a couple of spare batteries to keep my phone juiced up. I hope that I don’t run into anybody or anything while I’m trying to look at everything and also at my phone. Or get bumped into by all of the other nerds doing the exact same thing.


If I were a gran, like Ree-Yees from Return of the Jedi here, I could look at my phone while also absorbing the wonder of Galaxy’s Edge.

OK, I know that I said earlier that I wasn’t going to go on about how excited I am to fly the Millennium Falcon, but… I’m super excited to fly the Millennium Falcon! It’s always been my favorite ship in the Star Wars universe, and I’ve always enjoyed the immersion of Mission: SPACE (despite it not being Horizons), so the melding of these things into one attraction is probably going to blow my geeky mind. Plus, the fact that you can get different outcomes on your mission, which affects how the denizens of Black Spire Outpost Heck react to you, means that I’ll need to ride it multiple times (I have, for the record, attempted to crash the ship in Mission: SPACE, but it doesn’t let you). I expect that I might get a little misty-eyed seeing the ship right there in front of me. I’m sure it’ll just be the humidity or pollen or something, and not me crying like a baby because this iconic ship is really right there in front of me. Yeah, that’s it…

Obviously, by the way, I’m very excited to finally try blue milk. Also ronto steak seared under a starship engine, and all of the other odd and exotic space foods that’ll be offered. I’ll have to get some green milk too, though I hope that I don’t need to actually milk some weird alien sea cow thing to get it. I’m not saying that I wouldn’t, mind you, just that I hope that I don’t need to.

Ever since I was a little Star Wars nerdling, I’ve just wanted to immerse myself in that galaxy. I wanted to be a Jedi, a pilot, a smuggler, and a bounty hunter (sometimes all at once). I spent countless hours of my youth spent playing out these fantasies, imagining a large climbable rock near my house as my ship and a stick as a lightsaber, and creating vast stories in my room with action figures. So the very idea that I’ll soon be able to really play in this world — interacting with aliens, flying a ship, building a droid — is beyond exciting. You can bet that I have every intention of someday doing the Star Wars immersive resort experience thing that they’ve talked about, too. I’ll be reading all of the novels and comics coming out that further the story of Black Spire Outpost, too, to whet my appetite until I finally get to travel to Batuu and see it all for myself.

After decades of dreaming about what it would be like to live in Star Wars, Disney is finally giving me the opportunity to play in a galaxy far, far away. The biggest problem that I see will be returning to this boring, Ithorian-less one.

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Imagining Nostalgia

If you’re at all familiar with my work–either here on the blog or on my various social media outlets–you may have noticed that I bring up Journey Into Imagination a lot. It’s been a favorite attraction of mine since I was a wide-eyed wee lad, after all, so it makes sense that I’d talk about it a bunch. However, according to this informative statistic (that I just totally made up), 93.6% of the time when I do mention “Journey Into Imagination” I tend to also add the descriptor “a shadow of its former self”.

Why, if I love the ride, do I also badmouth it so much? Why do so many other fans do the same? Why does a classic attraction that seems to garner so much affection on social media also seem to have an equal amount of negativity aimed at it, and often from the same people? The answer is pretty complicated.

Wait, no. Sorry. It’s not. The answer is actually pretty simple: the original version of the ride was incredible, and the later iterations have just kind of… sucked.

OK, maybe that’s a bit harsh, but I do think that it’s fair to say that the current attraction is not good. The sad part is that it very much used to be.


Figment has always had a special place in my heart, and being able to see him at all is the reason I still ride the current version of Journey Into Imagination. Even if doing so makes me a little sad at the state of the attraction.

For those of you who never got to see the original attraction, you missed out on a very special ride full of whimsy and magic. It’s not hard to find ride-through videos online if you want to see it, and I suppose that’s better than nothing, but those don’t really hold a candle to the actual experience. Aside from the fact that home video from that era isn’t very high quality, it’s just hard to get a feel for it all by watching it on a screen. To really understand it you’d have to have been immersed in its unique weirdness, surrounded by the cacophony of color and sound that was Journey Into Imagination. If time travel is an option for you, I’d highly recommend hopping back to check it out (and while you’re there, of course, ride Horizons).

The original ride centered around Dreamfinder and Figment, two wonderful characters created for the EPCOT Center park back when classic Disney characters like Mickey and Donald weren’t yet invited to the party. Dreamfinder was a big, cheerful fellow with a bushy beard and a top hat. Figment was his companion, a purple-and-orange dragon full of childlike wonder. Above and beyond the attraction, too, they were both a major part of the park for a while–there were walkaround characters for meeting and greeting, and they also had big roles in the advertising and merchandise. (Side note: If you want to read a great memoir from one of the original Dreamfinders, check out Ron Schneider’s book From Dreamer to Dreamfinder).

On the ride, Dreamfinder–aboard his fantastic blimp–welcomed guests and introduced them to his companion, Figment. They started out by catching imaginative ideas via the blimp’s weird vacuum hose thing, then we all headed to the Dream Port to drop them off. From there riders were taken on a journey through scenes of music and writing, theatre and science, cinema and nature, and so much more. There were animatronic characters, there was singing, there were lights and lasers. As Dreamfinder gleefully took us all on this trip, Figment played parts ranging from a painter to an astronaut. The attraction was a love letter to creativity, a colorful and bizarre experience that was very (very) odd, but that showcased one simple concept: use your imagination and who knows where it could lead you. Throughout it all played One Little Spark, a song written by the Sherman Brothers, which was a catchy tune on par with some of the finest Disney attraction songs out there. The ride was at times nonsensical, but a message about the power of imagination was woven through it all.

After the ride was done, the experience wasn’t quite over yet. Next up was the ImageWorks, a playground of fun interactive activities. Giant kaleidoscopes, a floor that played music as you stepped on colored tiles, a neon rainbow tunnel that changed color as you walked through it… it was total sensory overload, but it was a lot of fun and a great way to burn off some energy. They do have a newer version of this at the end of the current attraction, but like the ride itself it’s just not nearly as neat as the original. Plus, the maintenance of late seems to leave a lot to be desired–at least when I’ve been in there it always appears that several of the stations are broken.


Imagine one of these pin toy things, but the size of a large dining table and lit with colored lights, with a bunch of folks around it all pressing their hands underneath. OK, as an adult I may wonder about the sanitary implications (or lack thereof) but as a kid it was the coolest thing ever.

For a child like me, who was bursting with imagination and creativity but often without a suitable outlet for it (I was a weird kid, which I’m sure you’re shocked to hear), the ride’s message was important and much needed. Not that I didn’t love the other EPCOT attractions, but they were inspiring and entertaining in a very different way. While others more or less showcased reality–the history of a topic or possibilities of the future–Journey Into Imagination’s crazy romp let you take a break from it.

So what happened? How did we go from “ZOMG this ride is amazing” to “this ride kind of sucks”?

The original version of the ride ran from 1983 to 1998, then closed for a major renovation and reopened in 1999 as Journey Into YOUR Imagination (the all caps thing was a part of the title). Dreamfinder was gone, Figment was reduced to a couple of quick cameos, and the entire theme was now very different. Rather than a whimsical trip through the imagination, guests now went on a tour of the “Imagination Institute”. Dr. Nigel Channing (played by Eric Idle) was the new host of the ride, and he brought riders through different “imagination labs” to try and encourage them to imagine. The whole experience was pretty bad; instead of being an adventure of imagination like the first ride, the new version just tries to turn it into a pseudo-scientific explanation about being imaginative. It didn’t work, and its lack of popularity amongst guests forced another renovation just two years later in 2001. The latest iteration (which is the one currently running) opened in 2002, still featuring Nigel Channing and his Imagination Institute but it also put Figment back into a major role.

I still love the unique glass pyramids, the courtyard with the leaping fountains, and seeing Figment.

The problem is, though, the ride still isn’t very good. The Imagination Institute segments are lame (one could say that they… lack imagination). Nigel Channing, Dreamfinder’s replacement, is just a bumbling foil for Figment’s antics and is quite frankly missing the intelligence and heart (and beard) of his predecessor. Figment himself has gone from an excited child-like creature to a troublemaker whose attempts to “teach” Nigel Channing about imagination just come off as somewhat obnoxious. The whole thing doesn’t have the whimsical voice of the original. In turning what was once a joyful and weird journey through imagination into an attempt at giving it all a “scientific” slant, it manages to remove the soul of the attraction in the process.

To further hammer the point home, let’s think of it this way: imagine seeing Star Wars and just falling in love with the characters and the story and everything, and having it capture your imagination in a way that leaves a lasting impression on you. Then, years later, you go to a theater to excitedly see what you think is a new Star Wars movie and… it ends up being the Holiday Special. Sure, it has Luke Skywalker and Wookiees and all that, so I guess it’s still technically Star Wars, but it’s also several different shades of terrible. That’s kind of like seeing the original Journey Into Imagination and then going back to the park and seeing the latest version. Plus, if your first entry into Star Wars was seeing the Holiday Special, you’d likely wonder what all of those fans of the larger franchise keep going on about. Like people such as my wife, who only knows the current Journey Into Imagination and therefore doesn’t have the nostalgia factor that I do. To make matters worse, imagine if the Holiday Special was now the only version of Star Wars you can watch from now on. Ugh. Just thinking of that makes me shudder. I think I’m done with this analogy now.

I still ride Journey Into Imagination whenever I’m at the park, much to my wife’s dismay. I still love Figment, and I’m very happy to see that he’s gotten a new role as a spokesdragon for the various EPCOT festivals, but even I have to admit that at this point I’m just trying to hold onto the memory of something that doesn’t exist anymore.

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It’s not just the ride itself that’s gone downhill over the years, either, but everything around the attraction shows signs of neglect. When the sun hits the glass pyramids, you can clearly see how badly they need a cleaning. The jumping fountains in the courtyard are in disrepair. It’s like once fans abandoned the attraction (there’s rarely a line to get on the ride), Disney management just forgot it was there. Or maybe it was the other way around. 

So what could be done to make Journey Into Imagination an attraction worth seeing again? Well, tapping into the magic that made the first one so special would be a good start. There was a wonder about that experience, though maybe it was lightning in a bottle that just can’t be caught again. Getting away from the laboratory thing would help, as it turns imagination into a science experiment rather than pure creativity and it fundamentally changes the theme. Obviously, too, I think that bringing back Dreamfinder and the better version of Figment would be a big step in the right direction. However, I also (sadly) get that this is probably never going to happen. There were whispers a while back about making Dreamfinder a meet & greet character again, though there’s been no indication that it was anything more than rumors. Plus, while it would be super cool for us old fans, without any sort of other context I wonder if anybody else would actually care. It is great to see Figment being used more these days as a part of the various festivals that are happening at the park, though, and I’d love to see them develop that further and bring him back into a starring role.

Realistically, however, here’s a more likely scenario: Disney keeps letting this area fall apart for a while longer, ensuring that guests continue to abandon it, then they announce a big renovation project. It removes all of these cool classic bits (and likely adds in a popular IP) as a part of their big EPCOT overhaul, then they pat themselves on the back for making something shiny and new rather than polishing up the beloved thing that was already there. Or maybe that’s just me being cynical?

Maybe it’s a bit silly to get this worked up over changes to a theme park ride, but that only speaks to the lasting impression that Journey Into Imagination had on people like me. It was a special experience that, whether intentional or not, Disney simply hasn’t been able to replicate in its subsequent iterations. At this point I’d almost rather it be completely replaced with something new rather than continue on in its current form, which is a hard truth for me to accept. There have been rumors for years about it being replaced with an Inside Out attraction, though that has never materialized into reality. Personally, though, if they were going to change it into an IP-driven experience, I’d much rather that they go with Meet the Robinsons, as that (excellent) film is much closer to sharing the heart and vibe of the original attraction.

Whether Disney tries again with another iteration of Journey Into Imagination, or completely scraps it all for something new, remains to be seen. However, there are those of us who will keep holding onto the special memories of what came before. Some, like myself, continue to ride the new version in the hopes of recapturing just a bit of that whimsical magic. Even though it’s just a shadow of its former self.

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What happens when you take the incredible popularity of beloved Disney films, and add in the oddity that is internet culture? You get fan theories.

For those unfamiliar: fan theories are what happens when people start thinking about the worlds and characters in a movie, but they go beyond what happened on the screen and fill in plot holes with their own ideas or try to find new connections. They’re often creative, and sometimes quite strange. Some of them make sense, while others can seem like a bit of a stretch (sometimes a reeeeally long stretch). In rare instances these theories even get proven–or soundly dismissed–by the film’s creators, but mostly they just rattle around the internet for the amusement and consideration of other fans.

There are a ton of fan theories out there, and they cover just about every Disney film. Here are just a few:

Street Rat of the Future

This is probably my favorite fan theory,  and I’m writing this blog post mostly so I could share it. The theory suggests that Aladdin, rather than taking place during some undefined timeframe in the past, actually happens about ten thousand years or so in a post-apocalyptic future.

The idea revolves around some of the things that Genie says throughout the film. When he’s first revealed, he states that he’s been in the lamp for ten thousand years. So, according to those that subscribe to this thought process, if Aladdin truly took place in the past (likely somewhere in the 900-1200 range, give or take a few centuries) then the Genie would have been imprisoned before 10,000 BCE. However, it seems unlikely that Genie was granting wishes to mammoth hunters and then somehow got trapped in a lamp that couldn’t have even been crafted in that prehistoric era, which forced theorists to rethink the timeframes.

Genie makes a number of “pop culture” references from the last few decades of modern times. How would he know all of these things if they all happened centuries after the movie supposedly takes place? To answer this, the theory suggests that Genie was in fact trapped in the lamp somewhere around our current time. The apocalypse then happens at some point during the ten thousand years in which he was stuck, and the world became a desert in which Middle Eastern culture survived. Even the name of the land, Agrabah, could be taken as a variation on “Arabia”, a change that might have occurred during the time that humanity was rebuilding itself. When Genie was freed by Aladdin, his most current memories would be from Earth circa 1992-ish (when the movie came out), hence his knowledge of references from then and the few preceding decades. But wait, there’s more! The theory even goes so far as to say that what Aladdin and his contemporaries see as magic–the flying carpet, the Cave of Wonders, Jafar’s tricks, etc–are actually remnants of technology that humanity had before the apocalypse wiped almost everything out.

I think my favorite part about all this is just that it makes so much sense (that, and I’m a fan of anything involving a far-flung future), and it doesn’t really do anything to change the ideas in the film, it just slightly alters the setting in which everything happens. Personally, I totally accept this theory as fact.


In this scene, Genie says Aladdin’s outfit is “much too third century”, suggesting that the blue guy was around then and familiar with the fashions of the time. Some folks have therefore inferred that he was trapped in the lamp at some point later than 300 AD, and even if he was stuck in the lamp that year his release in the movie would be around 10,300 AD. More than enough time for humanity to destroy and rebuild itself.

Family Ties

Many fan theories suggest connections between films, attempting to prove some sort of kinship between characters. Like, for example, this one: Jane, from Tarzan, is a descendant of Belle from Beauty and the Beast.

Basically, according to this hypothesis, they look a lot alike and they both favor yellow outfits. They also have very little issue with being around feral guys. Additionally, in one scene of Tarzan we see a tea set in Jane’s camp that looks suspiciously like Mrs. Potts and her family, which theorists say is a china set that was passed down through the family. Which would make Belle Jane’s great, great, great, great, grandmother (give or take some greats) if the theory is to be believed. Sure, why not?


I don’t know if “brunette and wearing yellow” is enough to determine a genetic link, but I also have no compelling evidence to suggest otherwise.

If we’re willing to accept that as fact, though, then how about if we throw Duke Weselton from Frozen into the mix? According to commenter Kate O’Gara’s thoughts on Disneytheory.com, this is a very plausible connection that adds a couple more branches to the family tree. Here’s how she connected the dots:

It’s estimated that the story of Beauty and the Beast takes place around 1740. When the French Revolution started in 1789, a rich family living in a castle probably wasn’t too popular with the angry townsfolk, so Belle and the prince hightailed it out of the country before they were led to the guillotine. They settled in Germany, prospered, and eventually their kid gave birth to a bouncing baby Duke Weselton. In Frozen, Weselton was pretty scared of Elsa’s powers, and according to O’Gara’s theory this is because he had heard stories about his grandfather’s ordeal with the enchantress that turned him into a beast. Since, by the end of the movie, he had botched the trade agreement with Arendelle, he was probably not too popular back home and as such packed up and headed to England in time to profit from the Industrial Revolution. Then his own grandson, Professor Q. Porter, used some of his family’s money to fund a trip to find gorillas in Africa.


Kate O’Gara points to the similarities between Weselton and Porter as further evidence to corroborate her theory. I’d say that their physical features are way more of a link than “wearing yellow”.

A family tree that manages to encompass three different Disney films? Neat!

Do I buy this one? Sure, I think that I can accept it. Plus, I appreciate how the theory incorporates real-world events to craft a compelling history. Given that Tarzan is probably my least favorite Disney animated feature, too, I think the family saga that fans have created here is possibly more compelling than the movie itself. Plus, I’d love to hear Belle sing an upbeat tune while escaping an angry mob during the French Revolution.

Swinging From the Family Tree

Speaking of Frozen and Tarzan, how about a theory claiming that Tarzan is related to Anna and Elsa?

This one actually started with the co-director of Frozen, Chris Buck, who also worked on Tarzan. While spitballing stories with the other director, Jennifer Lee, he claimed that the king and queen of Arendelle didn’t die in a shipwreck like we’re led to believe.

From MTV.com: “Of course Anna and Elsa’s parents didn’t die. Yes, there was a shipwreck, but they were at sea a little bit longer than we think they were because the mother was pregnant, and she gave birth on the boat, to a little boy. They get shipwrecked, and somehow they really washed way far away from the Scandinavian waters, and they end up in the jungle. They end up building a tree house and a leopard kills them, so their baby boy is raised by gorillas. So in my little head, Anna and Elsa’s brother is Tarzan — but on the other side of that island are surfing penguins, to tie in a non-Disney movie, ‘Surf’s Up.’ That’s my fun little world.”

It’s hardly an official statement, of course.

I don’t think I can accept this one. There’s the fact that the king and queen of Arendelle look nothing like Tarzan’s parents (as seen in a photograph), and I don’t think the timeframes line up properly. So this one seems like just a flight of fancy and not really a plausible theory. I think I need to call shenanigans on this one.

Under the Sea

Remember the climactic scene in The Little Mermaid, when Prince Eric valiantly climbed up onto a shipwreck and used the broken bow to skewer Ursula and save the day?

Well, would you be willing to accept that the shipwreck was the same one that killed Anna and Elsa’s parents in Frozen? There are fans that say exactly that.

In this theory, Anna and Elsa’s mom and dad (do they have names? This is getting awkward) left their home with the intention of visiting Rapunzel’s family and celebrating the return of the princess. It was on this journey that their ship went down, only to be drawn up from the depths much later by a certain sea witch during her battle with a certain mermaid.

Theorists point to the locations of the different stories as evidence. Arendelle is based on Norway, so the assumption is that it would be in the same place on a map of the world. Corona, where Tangled takes place, is basically Germany. If they were sailing from Norway to Germany, they would pass the coast of Denmark, which is where The Little Mermaid is believed to be set (based upon architecture and clothing, plus the fact that Hans Christian Anderson was Danish). So, from a geographical standpoint, the shipwreck could be in the right spot to later be used as a lethal weapon. It’s also believed that both Frozen and Tangled take place sometime around the 1840s (using the fuzzy timeframes that Disney tends to go with), and while it’s harder to pin down The Little Mermaid‘s era it could still work.

Does it, though? I don’t think so. Observe:


Look, those two ships clearly aren’t the same. However, I am more than happy to accept that the shipwreck was in fact one of the boats that Captain Nemo sank with the Nautilus in 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea.

The ships look nothing alike. The Frozen boat, at the top, has a large forward mast with a slightly larger mast behind that. There’s a third one further back. The one in The Little Mermaid appears to have a completely different configuration, and even has one more. Plus, the ship that Arendelle’s king and queen were on (seriously, why don’t they have names) has a raised stern that isn’t present on the one that killed Ursula. The bow is also quite different.

Sorry, theorists. It’s a great attempt at connecting three different films with one tragic shipwreck, but I think I need to say that this one doesn’t hold water. Like the ship did. Which is why it sank. 


Here’s another theory that attempts to connect characters from two different films, in this case Hercules and The Little Mermaid, by claiming that the main characters are actually cousins.

This one makes sense, and to prove it you just need to look at Greek mythology.

Hercules is the son of Zeus. Poseidon is the brother of Zeus, making him the uncle of Hercules. Poseidon’s son, according to the myths, is Triton. In The Little Mermaid, Triton is Ariel’s dad. Based on that, it’s pretty clear that this theory works.

Of course, Hercules (who gave up his chance at immortality at the end of the film) would have died of old age long before Ariel was ever born. So it’s unlikely that they’ve hung out at any Olympus family reunions. Then again, given the fluidity of Disney timelines, who knows? The idea of Ariel and Herc eating burgers while catching up about their respective adventures is actually pretty entertaining.

Live and Don’t Learn

Instead of seeking out a familial connection between multiple films, here’s one that suggests two characters from two different tales are actually the same person: the Evil Queen from Snow White and Mother Gothel from Tangled.

Here’s how this story works: the Evil Queen didn’t die when she fell from the cliff at the end of Snow White, but instead she survived and ran off. Snow White takes place in a Germany-like setting, and Tangled‘s kingdom of Corona is based upon Germany, so the injured witch didn’t necessarily go that far before finding a new place to live (and, given the timeframe, it’s not like she could just call a Lyft, so her range was likely limited). At some point after she’s settled into her new home, she discovers the flower that grants her eternal youth. Both characters have a mutual motivation–beauty–and both are more than prepared to screw over a young princess to get it. Also, they kind of look alike and they both have a thing for wearing black cloaks. So maybe they’re actually one and the same?

I flip-flopped on this one, but ultimately I just can’t get behind this theory. Parts of it do seem to track pretty well, but the Evil Queen is a powerful sorceress and Mother Gothel seems dependent upon the flower (and later Rapunzel’s hair) for her magical needs. Unless… maybe she used up the last of her powers to heal her broken body after her little tumble?

I’m still going to say no, but it’s close on this one.

OK, so far none of these theories do much to alter the characters themselves or their motivations throughout the films. For the most part they’re all about finding (sometimes tenuous) connections between different movies, and even the Aladdin thing really doesn’t change much in the narrative itself. There are long-held beliefs by many fans that most/all of the Disney animated films exist in the same universe anyway, and in general these theories just try to establish more specific bonds within that larger meta-theory.

What about when fans come up with something that fundamentally alters the story in a film, though? When theories turn what you saw onscreen upside down and asks you to reconsider everything you thought you knew about the narrative?

It’s Good to be the King

Like most Disney animated features, The Lion King has been the subject of a few different fan theories. Unlike attempting to find familial connections between films (it’d be hard to prove that Simba is Mulan’s brother), what fans have suggested about The Lion King are a bit more… conspiracy-theory-esque in nature.

For example, some fans have surmised that Mufasa isn’t actually a benevolent king, but he’s in fact a tyrant. The proof, they say, comes from little things that they’ve noticed in the movie. The idea of the circle of life, they claim, is Mufasa and his family of lions keeping the “lesser animals” in their place by occasionally eating them and then passing it off as an honor to be returned to the earth to become grass for others to consume so the lions can then eat them. More than just being how the food chain works, theorists say that this could be Mufasa’s plan to keep the rabble in line. Plus, he’s worked hard to keep those he considers to be undesirables–aka the hyenas–out of his perfect little kingdom. In this version of the story, Scar is painted as a hero of the people, trying to free the Pride Lands from underneath Mufasa’s tyrannical leadership. Oh, and that drought/famine that happens under Scar’s reign? Totally a coincidence. It’s not like he can control the weather, after all (though there’s a theory that claims Mufasa can control the weather, which is too weird even for me).

I don’t know if I can accept this one. The whole good and evil balance in the film seems pretty straightforward to me. This is adding layers that stretch the narrative into some odd directions that I can’t get on board with.

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Does Mufasa rule over the Pride Lands with an iron paw? I… ummm…. no. Just no.

How about going even further down this rabbit hole? According to some, Zazu was working for Scar the whole time to undermine Mufasa. They point to one particular moment as possible proof: when Simba and Nala sneak off to the elephant graveyard. It was Scar who put that notion in young Simba’s brain, but then the cubs say that they’re just going to the watering hole. Yet, later, Zazu seems to know exactly where to lead Mufasa to find them. How would he know that, unless he had some inside info and was a willing part of a larger conspiracy? Also, it’s frequently pointed out that The Lion King mirrors Shakespeare’s Hamlet in many ways, and this is also used to further the theory: in Hamlet, the king’s counsel is Polonius, who also happens to be a spy for Claudius (the bad guy). So if Zazu=Polonius, and Polonius=spy, then there are those who draw the conclusion that Zazu=spy. Then, when Scar is in charge, he keeps Zazu close in order to prevent the bird from turning tail (tailfeather?) and revealing what he’s done.

Again… wow. That’s some tinfoil hat territory (with Mickey ears, of course). Zazu can fly, right? Maybe when he noticed that the kids weren’t at the watering hole he flew around until he found them? I’m going on record to say that this is all madness.

Is it weird that people come up with these (often elaborate) theories about animated films? Maybe, but it also goes to show how beloved these stories are that fans want to delve deeper than what they saw on screen and come up with ideas about how their favorite tales may connect. Like how some folks put out there that Robin Hood is the medieval era of the Zootopia world, which I think I can agree with.

If you want to believe that Tarzan is Anna and Elsa’s brother, though, then director Chris Buck says to go for it. From that MTV interview: “I say, whatever people want to believe, go for it. If you want to tie them all together, then do it. That’s the spirit of Disney.”

With that in mind, I decided to take a crack at forming my own fan theory to close this post out (cracks knuckles dramatically):

Ok, let’s start with The Black Cauldron. In this film, which takes place in a medieval setting, a trio of witches have a habit of turning folks (like minstrel Fflewddur Fflam) into frogs. Late in the movie, the witches vanish in a dramatic fashion… only to return in 1920s New Orleans as Dr. Facilier’s “friends on the other side” in Princess and the Frog. I mean, he also has the ability to turn people into frogs, which was originally their hobby, so it makes sense that they could have taught him how to do it. Now, let’s take this even further and consider that there were several froggy victims of the witches’ magic in The Black Cauldron. It’s also likely that Dr. Facilier practiced the trick on others before using it on Naveen, so there could have also been some enchanted frogs hanging around New Orleans. Which leads us to the next connection: Meet the Robinsons. In that one, there are frogs who can talk and sing and even drive little cars. These are things that frogs normally cannot do, unless they happen to be descended from humans who were turned into frogs. So we have a whole civilization of magical frogs that have been around since the Middle Ages, got a burst of fresh blood in the early 20th century, and have survived well into the future.

Now, can we talk about how the weasels in Wind in the Willows and the ones in Who Framed Roger Rabbit are all a part of the same multi-generational crime family…

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